Thursday, March 19, 2009

Would YOU have gone?...................

Let me start off by saying that this will probably be a strange, rambling post. I'm not sure what I'm trying to accomplish by sharing this, maybe just some clarity or advice from BTDT moms.My Ryan will be 10 in May. He's my first child, so I've never done "this" before him, Down Syndrome or not.

The other day, a notice was sent home from school that they will be conducting a "Maturation Program" for his class (for most of his day, he's in a special ed class with the majority of kids having DS, but that's a whole 'nother post!) Anyway, this "Maturation Program" includes the presentation of a video - Always Changing, Always Growing - for boys, and of course one for girls. You have to sign a permission slip to allow your child to view it. Parents were invited to attend a preview of this video, I guess to determine if you think your child is ready for this sort of information.

I thought it would be a good idea for either Mark or I to see it, to see how they broach the subject, so that we could be on the same page when we talk to Ryan about this at home. I begged Mark to go, thinking that, of course, all of the other boys fathers would be there, and I didn't want to be the only woman watching a video about boys growing bodies in a room full of men. (yes, sometimes I can be really immature! LOL)

Mark was unable to take the time off from work, but also assured me that he thought ALL of the other mothers of kids with DS in his class would be there for the same reason that I felt it was so important to go. So off I went this morning.

I got there, I signed in, and went to the room I was told it was being shown in. There was no one else there. I waited and nobody else came. I finally went to the nurses office and she was happy to see me. She said she had been waiting in the room and couldn't believe no one showed (I was about 5 minutes late, so she had gone back to her office.) I was SHOCKED that no one else attended.

So, the nurse and I watched this video together. It was really ok, kids talking about personal hygiene, deodorant, pimples and such. Then she got called away right at the "good part"! LOL I'm not going to type the words because this little blog of mine will be hit by every porn web search, but they did have pictures (hand drawn B&W diagrams) showing growth, excitement, and what happens at the end of that excitement! They used all the correct terminology and it was educational! ;)

When it ended, I told her, "I'm not sure if Ryan is ready for this yet,.......as a matter of fact, I'm not sure I was ready for this yet!" We shared a laugh and then I asked her if all of the other boys in Ryan's class were going to view it. She said she didn't know until she got back all of the signed forms. She did say that this video is the one that they show to "typical" 5th graders. (Ryan would technically be in fourth grade this year)

So, a few questions for you all.........
1) Would you have gone to preview it? Was I nuts? I thought all the parents would be there.
2) Any moms reading this with older boys with DS? What did you do?
3) Would you allow your child with DS to view it at school, or prefer to talk about this at home?
4) Should I just tell them that he should skip it this year, but will be ready for it next year?
5) I appreciate any input/information/shared stories regarding this topic, even ladies with newborn sons, how would YOU react?

I'm so confused............this parenting stuff is HARD! (no pun intended! LOL) See, I warned you all that I was immature! ;)

13 comments:

Dream Believer said...

I would want to and the only reason I wouldn't go would be scheduling issues...but in that case, I wouldn't sign a form to let him see it until I had first!

Anonymous said...

I definitely would have gone too. I'm also surprised that you were the only one. I think if your gut is telling you that he's too young, then you should wait one year. Would it be possible to see all the hygenic stuff and then leave before the "meaty" topics (no pun intended either!)?

Cate said...

Holy smokes. I have no clue! Good luck with that.

In all seriousness -- there are some tips on the NDSS web site (here:http://www.ndss.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=134%3Asexuality&catid=50%3Atransition-a-adulthood&Itemid=141&showall=1) And I think Woodbine House just put out a book on sexuality, too.

My gut feeling would be to include him with his peers.

I don't get why no other parents went! Especially if there are lots of kids with DS in the class. Can you find out what they think?

Unknown said...

I would have gone to preview.

Call me old fashioned, but I didn't allow my children to participate in those 'educational' sections of health until high school....as I believe that it is a parents responsibility to teach those lessons, not a schools, and I also believe it should be tailored to each child's development and emotional maturity. I truly believe the greatest gift you can give your child is to allow them to be children for as long as possible.

My girls didn't start menstrating until they were 14 and 16. At the age of 11-12, we began conversations that would help prepare them when the time came. At 10, was way to early for my girls.

FBF Rothkopf said...

Yikes!

I would definitely have gone to the parent screening. But I'd be curious as to why no one else was there!

If you don't feel he's ready, don't sign it. And yes, Woodbine does have a newer book on the topic. For when he's ready, that is.

f.

Anonymous said...

Wowsa! I definitely would have gone to the screening prior to signing any form. I can't believe that nobody else was there...

If your gut feeling is he's not ready, then I'd wait till next year. Your his mom, you know best!

Hugs,
Penny

Chris said...

I absolutely would have gone. Was this screening just for kids in the special ed class? I would want to get a read on how many of the kids in the class are seeing it. If most are seeing it, and Ryan doesn't, he may end up hearing about it anyway. Just prepare yourself for that. I think that this should be a conversation that should be have at home first. I had it with Katherine before she saw "The Film" as it was known to all the 5th graders.

Jan Steck Huffman said...

As a mom of a boy, I have no intention of him attending a showing of this nature at this age (he is 8) I am no prude, but we discuss "privacy" and other issues that Terri Couwenhoven speaks of. Here is her book, and we brought her to our DSI parent group session on this topic.
http://www.woodbinehouse.com/main.asp_Q_product_id_E_978-1-890627-33-1_A_.asp

As for the girls, waiting until the age of 12 or more isn't realistic with girls with Down syndrome. FYI Tara, you might know that gals in our group are getting their periods at age 9-11 now, so beware!

As for the parents not showing up, Nash is included in the gen ed classroom, but I hear that IEP conferences and parents with children requiring IEPs generally dont even show up for case conferences. That is why the new IDEA now allows for IEPs to be final if no parent signs after 10 days from the meeting. sad. really sad.

All 4 My Gals said...

Interesting. I would definitely have previewed it. I can't believe you were the only one. Everybody complains and nobody gets involved anymore.

I would wait as well.

As far as girls, mine all know about the feminine hygiene stuff as such, not with any sexual relevance. I'm pretty open and none of mine will be shocked when it happens to them. :)

HUGS

rickismom said...

Modesty is very important, but our special kids need information to prevent ABUSE. Learning takes TIME. Once is not enough.
example, I have told my 14 year old daughter one hundred times that the living room is NOT a private area, but she still tends to want to get dressed there.
see my post here for the REASONS you need to educate, and that it is not a one-shot job:
http://beneaththewings.blogspot.com/2008/07/yes-no-and-case-for-education.html

I also HIGHLY recomend:
http://www.woodbinehouse.com/main.asp_Q_product_id_E_978-1-890627-33-1_A_.asp
It is a practical and nicely-toned book

Linda said...

Laura, first of all I don't even know why you are questioning your decision...from where I sit you're an amazing mom and your instincts are always spot on!

Alex doesn't have DS but I went through this with him last year and of course I went. To me I just feel that as a parent you have to be able to have a discussion with your children and if you don't see what they are showing them in school how can you have that?

Don't second guess yourself, you did the right thing by going...now I guess you have to go with your gut and make the decision if you feel your son is ready to see the video. Alex saw it and we talked about it a bit (he came home that day with a deodorant sample in his backback, lol...) and it wasn't a big deal.

Laura said...

Thanks everyone! I really appreciate all of your advice.

We've decided that he will skip it this year, and I've already ordered the book you guys suggested from Woodbine. We will start the conversation here at home as soon as the book arrives.

Betsy said...

Laura,

My girls both go to Catholic schools - the old fashioned Catholic schools with school masses, prayers, religion classes, the whole gig, lol...

When Dakotah was in third grade, her RELIGION class included a section of sexuality called Fully Alive.

OMG!!!! I read the chapter, and just about freakin' d-i-e-d!!! It was so, so graphic, complete with pictures, descriptions of what happens to boys and girls bodies during sex, the whole thing. Some of the words that were used were insane - inlcuding how to check your cervical mucous to see if you are fertile!!! (!!!!)

Our parent council even when to the school board and approached them with it - trust me, its quite embarrassing to get up in front of a group of stuffy board members and start regaling some of the information that was being shared.

oy-yoy-yoy. I pulled Dakotah out of the class that week, lol.

Its one thing to teach about menstruation, and boy issues, but quite another to read the Joy of Sex to them at this age, lol.

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